[Virunas]

Reasons to Kill or Call KOS (Kill on Sight)

Carrying any map-specific item near players that can damage, trap, or otherwise harm them

You should probably include that you can kill a Detective for this if they are actively chasing you with one despite no damage being done until they would have severely harmed/killed you with one.

[grasse]

• Knowingly destroying, sabotaging, or obstructing any map-specific innocent objective
  

i feel like this should not be a KOS and instead moved to suspicion, as i frequently do this on minecraft_b5 because i do not want the round to end via diamond block, i'd rather play through the round than have it end within 2 minutes because every innocent started the easter egg hunt. similarly on simple_dinks its very easy for someone to throw off one of the pieces to where its inaccessible, sabotaging the "innocent objective" unintentionally. does this also apply to more than just innocent-objectives that win them the map, or any easter egg which benefits whoever accomplishes it? examples such as: easter-egg required testers, secret knives/t weapons, or health stations

[Hotshot]

10/10 won't read and then will get mad when I break a rule and get slain

[TDawg4]

• Knowingly destroying, sabotaging, or obstructing any map-specific innocent objective
  

i feel like this should not be a KOS and instead moved to suspicion, as i frequently do this on minecraft_b5 because i do not want the round to end via diamond block, i'd rather play through the round than have it end within 2 minutes because every innocent started the easter egg hunt. similarly on simple_dinks its very easy for someone to throw off one of the pieces to where its inaccessible, sabotaging the "innocent objective" unintentionally. does this also apply to more than just innocent-objectives that win them the map, or any easter egg which benefits whoever accomplishes it? examples such as: easter-egg required testers, secret knives/t weapons, or health stations

This is a good catch. Hiding a diamond block somewhere should just be sus. I think it can be framed better, but the kos rule should apply to actively preventing an inno round win. i.e. running away with the last diamond block. This does just apply to inno round victory objectives not just things like secret knife.

Maybe a better rule would be: "Actively preventing an innocent round win though map-specific objective." 

This would still potentially include simple_dinks, but gets rid of the accident part and allows for just general interference to be susable.

If someone has a better way or if yall think it should all just be sus feel free to say so.

[bunniey]

• Knowingly destroying, sabotaging, or obstructing any map-specific innocent objective
  

i feel like this should not be a KOS and instead moved to suspicion, as i frequently do this on minecraft_b5 because i do not want the round to end via diamond block, i'd rather play through the round than have it end within 2 minutes because every innocent started the easter egg hunt. similarly on simple_dinks its very easy for someone to throw off one of the pieces to where its inaccessible, sabotaging the "innocent objective" unintentionally. does this also apply to more than just innocent-objectives that win them the map, or any easter egg which benefits whoever accomplishes it? examples such as: easter-egg required testers, secret knives/t weapons, or health stations

This is a good catch. Hiding a diamond block somewhere should just be sus. I think it can be framed better, but the kos rule should apply to actively preventing an inno round win. i.e. running away with the last diamond block. This does just apply to inno round victory objectives not just things like secret knife.

Maybe a better rule would be: "Actively preventing an innocent round win though map-specific objective." 

This would still potentially include simple_dinks, but gets rid of the accident part and allows for just general interference to be susable.

If someone has a better way or if yall think it should all just be sus feel free to say so.

I'd say no sus or kos on things that both innos and Ts can do. Simple, doing the easter eggs is just beneficial to whoever gets there first, same with secret knives. No real reason for this to be bad imo

[Virunas]

I think Damaging testers or hiding their requirements and preventing an inno win should be kosable. Every hidden block is the last diamond block if all the others become smelted, however preventing other secrets like knives should not even be sus, since like bunniey said, anyone can benefit. B5 diamond block victory doesn’t even happen every time we play the map.

To be clear: i think innos should be allowed to hide them, but they should also be able to be shot for it. Im sure you can find a block before anyone else can especially since 8 of them spawn on round start as opposed to prep, and you can safely hide or destroy those objectives that do spawn DURING prep without being kosed.

[茶 Tea]

i think damaging testers shouldn't be kosable for the same reason hiding diamond blocks shouldn't: they ruin they game and make it less fun to play

[grasse]

Do not use props to trap or troll other players or to kill players pre-round, unless they consent to it.

i had forgotten to mention this one as well when i made my first post but are you implying that killing someone in pre-round is now against the rules?

[Brahma]

Do not use props to trap or troll other players or to kill players pre-round, unless they consent to it.

i had forgotten to mention this one as well when i made my first post but are you implying that killing someone in pre-round is now against the rules?

It's always been in the rules you can check the unedited rules that are Here(not randomly prop kill people during pre-round unless they consent) , the reason that you probably didn't know about it is because nobody ever reports for that xD

[grasse]

yea gcubed informed me very quickly, might b one of the worst real rules ive ever seen