[chibill]

Oh i read it all right....So let me get this straight now.. Me having screen shots of calling him out on calling us retards and him saying "who cares" "I got nothing to lose" is not enough for you.. No denial of the claims just a who cares, is a he said she said to you? What a damn joke...

Oh and lets not forget that he let people say the N word without so much as a warning just so he could come at US 3 specifically.. Oh and that one i did manage to get a clip of...
And to explain why i got that and nothing else, My clips dont always clip actually pisses me off sometimes... And the later times he called us retards i was banned, cant clip shit when banned.

So you have no evidence of any of your claims of current harassment other the minor banter on discord? (And I am including the bans that you for some reason refuse to appeal, since we can't really count those as harassment unless they were executed falsely with no evidence.)  

You now added another claim with no evidence, which letting someone break a rule isn't harassment that's just called neglect of duty, which on TTT would be classified as a Major Offense under TTT's staff guidelines and be a strike if it was a normal staff, on PH it would likely be a strike under there Three Strike Policy as well,  meanwhile Murder didn't publicly post about their strike system, but they do indeed have a three strike policy for normal staff.   How this would apply to a sitting admin is up for debate since to the majority of staff Admin's should not be getting strikes.   But for that you also would have to provide evidence for this to matter. 


The biggest take away is without any actual evidence of harassment or rule breaking we can't / won't act.

So once again shoved under the fucking rug.. Not surprised at all with you lot happened 2 years ago as well.

Its not simple banter it me calling his ass out and him dismissing it acting as he is untouchable.. You can call it whatever the fuck you want but its clear as day to me and many others that responding with WHO CARES IVE GOT NOTHING TO LOSE is taking fault.. And i would post the video of him ignoring the guy but i cant seem to be able to upload the file, but not no worries, it would not amount to anything anyway, but happy to show anyone who want to see the clip.
Cant and wont act despite being gone for 2 years, him being gone for just as long.. GETTING ON AND IGNORING RULE BREAKERS TO STRICTLY TARGET US 3, Thats the harassment, thats the targeting, had he done it to everyone then id be different, But not he ignored everyone else to go after the ones hes had issue with in the past which i posted to prove hes had issue with in the past, issues that were brought fourth and reversed with nothing happening to him afterwards.. So no its not a cant and wont its a Dont want to.. Why the fuck should i make a ban appeal when im bringing this all up here, why sperate this into two fucking things when its all one damn incident, and can all be addressed as such.. Bring the damn evidence of our wrong doing here to defend his clear as day targeted harassment towards us.. but you wont make him do that... Funny how you want to talk about staff guidelines, False bans of the past not included in those strike? of course not, Ignoring rule breaks on the server not count as a strike... yeah nothing of the sort ever happened, and i made it clear in the rats be rats thread of all that.. Swept under the rug then and swept under the rug now.. 

And to Diana, did i not say this would happen.. did i not say shit would be swept under the rug once again, because its never enough.. But you claimed things were different now.. Yeah i see no difference i see the same people defending the actions of the same people.. And to levi.. I guess you were right.. you had nothing to lose because no seems to want to do anything about you, its pathetic really..

Oh and if anyone not part of the cool group sees this.... Make sure you record every second of every minute or else it dont matter and they wont act.. No matter how long the issue have been going, not matter how many times they have been made public on here or discord, you will get fucked in the end...

Nothing is being shoved under a rug, a REQUIREMENT for ban requests and abuse reports is EVIDENCE of what occurred. 

You making this claim with no evidence to back it up. We can't take just the word of someone as evidence. Thats not how this works at all.

As I already stated the only evidence at all that there is harassment is the bans which he has yet to provide me with anything for. Even when asked. Literally said this in my first post. 

Wtf are you on about with this comment, I didn't even know about the other thread till this thread was made because it wasn't in any actual official place for reports. Literally the only mention of it at all to any member of the staff team was in web staff thinking your thread got out of hand. And I had no idea what it was about because of its dumb title. Like who names a report "Rats be rats in the end." and posts it in Community Discussions?

[Lost_Leviathan]

Sorry my response has taken so long. I've been busy and thinking a lot about what to say. There are a lot of things to address and I know I am not a perfect person, nor a perfect staff member(nobody is); however, the accusations of harassment directed just at your group of friends and calling for a community ban is quite absurd to me. The main things I want to address are:

 The bans I gave out the other day have now been revoked since the punishments were primarily for attempted RDM, but your behavior of attacking others outside of your friend group with the popcorn buckets repeatedly is still not allowed. People who have played on the server as long as you should know better than most about it. I will admit I did get a little hasty with banning you, spider, since you were mostly innocent with the exception of a little rudeness when I joined, but I'll let it slide. When I originally saw the evidence video of the play before I joined I mistook you pushing Biig_Sad as throwing popcorn from above. I did also miss the RDM on Phan by him so he will be serving a week ban since this isn't his first offense. I admit I should have been more diligent with watching the video of evidence before punishments.

 As for the evidence I had, it looks like I lost a majority of it when I upgraded my SSD and built my other PC, but there is still evidence in the murder staff discord from a while back of phantom RDMing and inappropriate chat messages. Information about those can also be found here. So it's not like phantom hasn't had a history of rule breaking. We have banned other players for the same and being a regular shouldn't excuse the behavior. I have punished other regulars and my friends for breaking rules too. 
   

 The "harassment" that I am being accused of with the name calling and other things about sexuality, being a furry, and calling you retards literally has never happened. I know my messages in discord the other day were stupid, but I was just frustrated and didn't portray what I meant. I was not admitting to saying those things and was also venting frustrations I had about  separate matters altogether. The mutt nickname hasn't been mentioned in over 3 years because once Phan genuinely told me they hated it, I stopped, but when I was saying it, Phan was also calling me "Stinky fish" and saying I had "ick." So I assumed that was mutual banter that has now stopped. The crab thing that you are also bringing up wasn't just me. I know at the time I should have stopped before the others but I didn't start it and when everyone stopped, so did I. 

 What is going to change:

Over the next couple of weeks, I plan to work on the current rules that haven't been modified in over 3 years to try and make the guidelines more straightforward and make punishments easier to understand and deal out to rule breakers. 
ALL CURRENT AND PAST PUNISHMENT/STRIKES WILL BE CLEARED AND EVERYONE WITHOUT A PERMA BAN WILL START WITH A CLEAN SLATE.

I will also work with Milk to change server settings to remove the damage of popcorn buckets to prevent killing and reduce RDMs. If I can, I will also try to get new maps added and change what maps are in rotation. I will also try to go through and remove near impossible to reach spots to even out the playing field for all players. 

Hope this clears things up and feel free to DM me with any questions.

[Norm Minder]

im here to help if yall need me

where is the marvel rivals tournament

[BIIG_SAD]

[snip]

per request, here is the only map that recorded. my obs shat the bed. I still have one file I am trying to unfuck, and it looks like OBS died sometime during end map 1 start map 2.
anyway heres the evidence video that is referenced by levi that was shared with Levi.
https://youtu.be/URVXISyUNRM



 I have not spoken on this thread because it seemed alot of people were speaking with emotions and not rational logic. I also wanted to be neutral here, since its true that I am friends with levi. 

That being said, to phantom, fluxxy, I did not agree to being consistently ARDM for a whole map, especially after I was told to "leave this server this is [our] server". That didnt seem very friendly to me. as such, I reported the consistent ARDM and the map to lost leviathan.

In terms of pushing Phantom off the bridge, I thought it was really funny and didnt think it through tbh. I honestly expected phantom to airstrafe in a circle back onto the bridge, so thats genuinely my bad tbh.

I do think that some of the arguments made by the initial post are not in good faith but thats neither here nor there, and not really worth going into.

also lmao for previous punishments getting wiped (except mine for that week ban lmao)

TLDR, 
video.
phantom and fluxxyy ardm consistent with popcorn, shoving, after phantom told me to "leave this server this is our server".
I shoved phantom off a bridge because I thought it was really funny, expected an airstrafe that failed/didnt happen. thats on me tbh.

general confusion with Spider's contradictory statements in main post.



no, I am not going to respond here. no, I will not elaborate. No, I will not respond in DMs. if you DM me, it will likely be shown to the public.

I am moving on with this one since this whole thread is a stupidburger of brainmelt and statements that are debatably not factual nor logical.

Thanks.






quick, now that everyone's stopped reading, here's a couple shitposts I snuck in:

我没有太多的时间请帮我， 我再说一遍， 请帮我， 我是认真的， 我已经被中国政府抓获了， 请帮我， 我的球不见了， 我像狗一样被割伤了， 卫兵们正在返回， 我要求他们在他们到达时唱歌上帝， 请饶恕我， 请饶恕我

快， 他们走了， 你必须来快， 我觉得结束是接近第一我的球旁边我的阴茎， 最后我的生活!
(+67 social credit)
also are we/is there a marvel rivals tournament? Im game tbh
also cool game that hopefully will release soon: https://deadzonegame.net/



ok ok quick uh, serious talk since the mods are reading the post again!

uh, uh, in conclusion, I am going to appeal being banned for a week since uh, uh, you have no proof and uh, uh, it was funny asf your honor, and that should definitely absolve me from RDM (it's not going to)(i literally posted the video)(chat im cooked)

anyway this thread is highk cooked.

'k bye

[Damien1579]

snip

Is this not an indirect admittance to the offense alleged? I just can't justify this as "being frustrated" this just seems like you did it and didn't care about it at the time. Seems more like damage control to me idk.

[Norm Minder]

snip

Is this not an indirect admittance to the offense alleged? I just can't justify this as "being frustrated" this just seems like you did it and didn't care about it at the time. Seems more like damage control to me idk.

That screenshot just shows him getting annoyed and typing “who cares” and “what do we have to lose” .That doesn’t prove shit.

Levi says he never said the word, and spider got no proof (no clip or anything), then it’s just their words against his.

No evidence = no action.

Simple as that.

[Dildo Shwaggins]

im here to help if yall need me

where is the marvel rivals tournament

As long as I can play as Jeff

[chibill]

Norm, Icey and Shwaggins please no shit posting on this, this will be your only "verbal" warning for this thread, thanks.

[§Scrappy Doo]

[snip]

per request, here is the only map that recorded. my obs shat the bed. I still have one file I am trying to unfuck, and it looks like OBS died sometime during end map 1 start map 2.
anyway heres the evidence video that is referenced by levi that was shared with Levi.
https://youtu.be/URVXISyUNRM



 I have not spoken on this thread because it seemed alot of people were speaking with emotions and not rational logic. I also wanted to be neutral here, since its true that I am friends with levi. 

That being said, to phantom, fluxxy, I did not agree to being consistently ARDM for a whole map, especially after I was told to "leave this server this is [our] server". That didnt seem very friendly to me. as such, I reported the consistent ARDM and the map to lost leviathan.

In terms of pushing Phantom off the bridge, I thought it was really funny and didnt think it through tbh. I honestly expected phantom to airstrafe in a circle back onto the bridge, so thats genuinely my bad tbh.

I do think that some of the arguments made by the initial post are not in good faith but thats neither here nor there, and not really worth going into.

also lmao for previous punishments getting wiped (except mine for that week ban lmao)

TLDR, 
video.
phantom and fluxxyy ardm consistent with popcorn, shoving, after phantom told me to "leave this server this is our server".
I shoved phantom off a bridge because I thought it was really funny, expected an airstrafe that failed/didnt happen. thats on me tbh.

general confusion with Spider's contradictory statements in main post.



no, I am not going to respond here. no, I will not elaborate. No, I will not respond in DMs. if you DM me, it will likely be shown to the public.

I am moving on with this one since this whole thread is a stupidburger of brainmelt and statements that are debatably not factual nor logical.

Thanks.






quick, now that everyone's stopped reading, here's a couple shitposts I snuck in:

我没有太多的时间请帮我， 我再说一遍， 请帮我， 我是认真的， 我已经被中国政府抓获了， 请帮我， 我的球不见了， 我像狗一样被割伤了， 卫兵们正在返回， 我要求他们在他们到达时唱歌上帝， 请饶恕我， 请饶恕我

快， 他们走了， 你必须来快， 我觉得结束是接近第一我的球旁边我的阴茎， 最后我的生活!
(+67 social credit)
also are we/is there a marvel rivals tournament? Im game tbh
also cool game that hopefully will release soon: https://deadzonegame.net/



ok ok quick uh, serious talk since the mods are reading the post again!

uh, uh, in conclusion, I am going to appeal being banned for a week since uh, uh, you have no proof and uh, uh, it was funny asf your honor, and that should definitely absolve me from RDM (it's not going to)(i literally posted the video)(chat im cooked)

anyway this thread is highk cooked.

'k bye

I watched the video TWICE and at no point did I attempt to RDM you or anyone else. Pushing is a different thing and I pushed you maybe 2-3 times and you said nothing about it. Please provide the proof. Me saying "this is our server" is a running joke between me and my friends because we were the only playing it for a long time. I'd say the same thing if another regulars I knew joined. It means nothing and will never be any more then an inside joke  All that extra stuff at the bottom is not needed either.

---

Sorry my response has taken so long. I've been busy and thinking a lot about what to say. There are a lot of things to address and I know I am not a perfect person, nor a perfect staff member(nobody is); however, the accusations of harassment directed just at your group of friends and calling for a community ban is quite absurd to me. The main things I want to address are:

 The bans I gave out the other day have now been revoked since the punishments were primarily for attempted RDM, but your behavior of attacking others outside of your friend group with the popcorn buckets repeatedly is still not allowed. People who have played on the server as long as you should know better than most about it. I will admit I did get a little hasty with banning you, spider, since you were mostly innocent with the exception of a little rudeness when I joined, but I'll let it slide. When I originally saw the evidence video of the play before I joined I mistook you pushing Biig_Sad as throwing popcorn from above. I did also miss the RDM on Phan by him so he will be serving a week ban since this isn't his first offense. I admit I should have been more diligent with watching the video of evidence before punishments.

 As for the evidence I had, it looks like I lost a majority of it when I upgraded my SSD and built my other PC, but there is still evidence in the murder staff discord from a while back of phantom RDMing and inappropriate chat messages. Information about those can also be found here. So it's not like phantom hasn't had a history of rule breaking. We have banned other players for the same and being a regular shouldn't excuse the behavior. I have punished other regulars and my friends for breaking rules too. 


 The "harassment" that I am being accused of with the name calling and other things about sexuality, being a furry, and calling you retards literally has never happened. I know my messages in discord the other day were stupid, but I was just frustrated and didn't portray what I meant. I was not admitting to saying those things and was also venting frustrations I had about  separate matters altogether. The mutt nickname hasn't been mentioned in over 3 years because once Phan genuinely told me they hated it, I stopped, but when I was saying it, Phan was also calling me "Stinky fish" and saying I had "ick." So I assumed that was mutual banter that has now stopped. The crab thing that you are also bringing up wasn't just me. I know at the time I should have stopped before the others but I didn't start it and when everyone stopped, so did I. 

 What is going to change:

Over the next couple of weeks, I plan to work on the current rules that haven't been modified in over 3 years to try and make the guidelines more straightforward and make punishments easier to understand and deal out to rule breakers. 
ALL CURRENT AND PAST PUNISHMENT/STRIKES WILL BE CLEARED AND EVERYONE WITHOUT A PERMA BAN WILL START WITH A CLEAN SLATE.

I will also work with Milk to change server settings to remove the damage of popcorn buckets to prevent killing and reduce RDMs. If I can, I will also try to get new maps added and change what maps are in rotation. I will also try to go through and remove near impossible to reach spots to even out the playing field for all players. 

Hope this clears things up and feel free to DM me with any questions.

Saying it "Has literally never happened" is a flat out lie, But with no evidence I have no fight for it and it'll become nothing. You know what you said. We are grown adults and cant admit when you've said something wrong? I'm trying to keep this from getting dirty but it wont get any better from here. I genuinely have nothing to say other then I hope to see things change for the better.
                                                                                            Good Day

[Dildo Shwaggins]

“My evidence is my word” -Prince Nicky La Flama Blanca

And everyone actually involved in this silliness, apparently.

Anyways, here’s Wonderwall