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Nobody is permabanned for using a soundboard. People are permabanned for multiple stacking offenses over the course of time. If you are using a soundboard consistently after multiple warnings, you will be banned to escalate the issue. This continues until the problem is resolved. Micspam is and always will be against the rules. 

When no one in the server is complaining, I don't see how that can be considered micspam.

Just because everyone in the server is fine with it at the time does not invalidate the rule. The rules don't just apply when people complain. Not everyone wants to hear people screaming in their mic, singing, playing earrape, or spamming the same soundboard clip every 2 seconds. This is how nearly every TTT server operates and I see absolutely no reason to change it at this time. Timed mutes & gags are currently being tested but they will also not change the current rules on micspam. 

So what you mean to say is staff gets to conveniently choose when to use their "discretion" and when to lay out the "rules are rules" card.

So when you, Nicol, got on the server and killed Burb with !explode, because that has happened, you made sure to properly deal out your own punishment right? Just because Burb was okay with it, and the rest of the server was okay with it, it doesn't invalidate the rules. The rules don't just apply with people complain.

That is not what I am saying at all, not sure where you're getting that from. Staff are given their rank to enforce the rules for the betterment of the server. You say staff are "conveniently" able to choose to use their discretion. Yeah. That's why they are staff and normal players are not. They are trusted to use their judgement to ensure the server is running smoothly. Not every new player wants to join a server and get their ears blasted by someone yelling at max volume. What a small group of regular players finds funny and fine is not always the majority server opinion. I doubt you're running polls every time someone micspams and ensuring it's a unanimous agreement, but I'm getting off topic. 

The rules have been written in a way to allow the game to flow smoothly. They have evolved overtime to their current state based on community feedback. I do appreciate the suggestion even if I do not agree with it at this time. At the end of the day, nobody is being banned for using a soundboard once. If they are, feel free to let me know as that is not proper procedure. Anyone being banned from micspam is banned due to multiple past offenses stacking. Bans are used as a final measure of punishment. 

I'm going to ignore the second part of this post because it's not relevant at all and not even a parallel to this discussion in the slightest (micspamming =/= killing someone with consent) and is more of an ad hominem but thanks.

Right, and their discretion is supposed to fit within the boundaries of the guidelines that are established for staff. Which is why I made this thread. "Rewrite the micspam rules". I am advocating that the guid lines that the staff operate within be changed to be more lenient towards sound boards, especially soundboards in deadchat. A 24 hour - week ban is sufficient. I can also assure you that most of the legitimate 'micspam' / 'soundboards' are well received by most people on the server. There have been polls before. Obviously ear rape, and in-round is a different beast.

No, but people are warned for using soundboards when a warn isn't warranted. As mentioned, when someone is using a soundboard (not even at max level) and it's not just some shitty mic spam, I do not agree that a warn is warranted. If there are multiple people complaining or voicing their dissatisfaction to the staff on at the time, then sure, that's a different story. Those "stacked warns", which I am arguing aren't justified in the first place, then result in an eventual ban.

As for your last part
Lets change what you originally said "Just because everyone in the server is fine with it at the time does not invalidate the rule. The rules don't just apply when people complain." to

"Just because burb is fine with it at the time does not invalidate the rule. The rules don't just apply when people complain."

which is essentially what you just responded with "(micspamming =/= killing someone with consent) and is more of an ad hominem but thanks."

But I agree, not relevant to the main point of the thread which was ultimately: Rewrite the guidelines for micspamming. Not just for bans, but what warrants warns as well.

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Re"RussEfarmer" has made a script for muting people. Use it. 

Lol if only it was that easy. You have to first get Dink to notice it and then add it which even getting Dinks attention has caused many resignations.

That's fair. Does that man even interact with the server? Jesus man really just takes the money and runs

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What is "baiting with micspam"

 TTT guidelines' definition of micspam includes "Playing Music" and by definition never allowed. The song that was being played was https://youtu.be/LkuM1wSH5hI and I think we all let it play itentirely. Even if the users were ok with it it was too much.

So why did you let the song play in the entirety then? How does it become too much if the users were okay with it? If the users were okay with it, who does it become too much for?

Just trying to understand